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Post by Raffy on May 23, 2009 6:53:51 GMT -5
I didn't like season 11 at all. Too much neela and too much Abby and sucking storylines for Carter. I think, besides few moments, season 11 was the worst Carter's season because, like you said, Anna, they didn't seem to care about his storyline at all. And I think they did it on purpose: they just tried to put the character on the corner to minimize the effects of Noah's departure. Shame on them. I don't have the dvds but I think it's from Episode 11x03, "Try Carter".
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Post by darksparrow on May 23, 2009 7:01:37 GMT -5
Oh okay, thanks. Makes sense, but I can't check, cause I only have the first two episodes of season 11. I'll work on downloading that one. it really bothers me that there's a scene out that I just can't place.
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Post by darksparrow on May 27, 2009 15:22:47 GMT -5
Adorable little continuity detail that I noticed now, watching season 7, and thought was worth mentioning (although knowing the people on this board, you guys probably noticed it before): If you recall Carter's visit to chase in season 4, episode 17- he gives him a photography book that Chase later spills some water on. I have the scene here, in case you don't remember, just because it's a beautiful scene: Right. Now cut to season 7. Carter visits Chase for the first time in years... And what do we see on the table right behind them in the background of the scene? The book! I love finding stuff like that just when you thought you've seen all there was to a storyline. And I love that nobody points it out, but it's just lying there, to show that Carter may have disappeared from Chase's life, but his gift from all that time ago (both the book itself and the fact he's spent time and effort on working with Chase on his speech and motor skills) still makes a difference. I also love how the uniform of the nurse treating Chase in season 7 is still exactly the same. Not something anyone would usually notice, but I've grown to expect much less from the writers. Now, how come the ER people can get this sort of subtle detail right, but mess up big stuff like Carter's sister (or the lack of a laparotomy scar in season 15, for that matter?) *sigh* anyway, yeah, I just thought that was sweet.
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Post by claired80 on May 29, 2009 0:52:50 GMT -5
... I hadn't noticed the book!!!! What a beautiful beautiful touch! ;D And thanks for the scene in S4. Indeed very nice scene, as all the scenes with Chase (s4 and s7...). Funny that Chase was the first Carter family member actually shown on screen (if I'm not mistaken... ) and he was 'just' a cousin, but his role became so important 3 years after his apparently insignificant introduction. *sigh too*... That remains a total mystery...
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Post by Raffy on Jun 30, 2009 10:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by claired80 on Jun 30, 2009 11:57:37 GMT -5
Lol!!! ;D I don't know if it's because Carter's face is the most 'familiar' to me, but I find the drawing the least resembling for him ...
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Post by janet on Jul 1, 2009 3:30:21 GMT -5
The Sherry Stringfield looks nothing like her, but the rest aren't bad. They have got Noah's expression, but his (young) face is a bit wonky .... Noah was never that crooked!!! Still, I can't draw at all, so I'm impressed
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Post by silverfire on Jul 1, 2009 13:39:19 GMT -5
Really nice drawing!!
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Post by darksparrow on Jul 29, 2009 6:44:23 GMT -5
Ok, so there was a season 11 episode on TV today, called "The Providers". Thought I'd watch it because I had nothing better to do. Other than the fact Noah looked painfully good in it (in a "it's hard to concentrate on what you're saying right now, because when you look like this, I need a cold shower" sort of way) it's actually a very touching episode. And to make it more ironic, the whole storyline for Carter this episode is a teenage girl with renal failure caused by a fancy new medication that her family doctor perscribed. The family doc is none other than Henry, the infamous med student from season 4. Carter tries to take a stand against the drug company, mostly managing to piss off everyone from the hospital administration. I mean it's a powerful storyline even without knowing what's in store for Carter... And you know the crazy part? I've never seen this episode before. And it's season 11 and it's good. Once again it makes me think I should get my hands on season 11 and rewatch it, because obviously I missed so much of it! Someone needs to take away my fangirl card...
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Post by claired80 on Jul 29, 2009 7:42:33 GMT -5
"The Providers" is maybe the best episode of s11, I think , and yep, it takes another dimension with knowing about s15 for Carter. IIRC, the teenage girl has hyperkalemia and goes into V-tach like Carter in "What we do", right? S11 is very heterogeneous for the quality of episodes as far as Carter goes I think... ...and Noah didn't get the screentime we could have expected knowing it was his last season. The first few episodes, like Damaged, Try Carter... gave Noah quite some material to play angsty Carter really well. Then he was hardly anywhere to be seen, just a few scenes here and there, stupid love story with Wendall (though upon rewatching a few episodes some times ago, it didnt' feel as bad now as it was then... ). And then in the second half of the season, two very good episodes, The Providers and Ruby Redux, bringing back old characters from Carter's storylines. And then the 'bye bye Carter' was all in all quite disappointing . I remember that I was expecting more from the Paris episode, and from the final episode even more!
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Post by darksparrow on Jul 29, 2009 8:34:12 GMT -5
Yeah. at some point when he's using the defibrilator I was running a completely different scene in my head. Small stuff like that make me realize how scarily obsessed I am, because we must have seen this scenario on ER a million times- a patient goes into V-tach and they shock them back to life, and now I'm just noticing it everywhere... Making up connections that aren't even there. Like season nine, ten? When Carter's got an HIV positive patient in a coma who had signed an organ donor card, and the guy's HIV positive buddy who needs a liver or something, and Carter tries so hard to make that happen... it makes me warm and fuzzy inside to think that maybe the fact he got the kidney so fast- you know, considering how long the wait for a kidney can be- was karma. That was my problem with season 11 and the reason I really didn't watch most of it. It was just so painfully obvious that they had no idea what to do with Carter, and I was convinced they would mess it up somehow, so I was dreading all the possibilities... (The Return of Sobriki? Car crash? Aids?)... I guess watching it now is easier because we know exactly how they messed it up. But low as my expectations of season 11 are- based on the few episodes I did see- I really did like this episode. Good things happen when you give Carter a storyline with some depth! It was one of those cases when, while watching, you think "Noah must really be lovin' it" because there is a point that they're trying to get across, they're trying to educate people on the tricks that drug companies play and their ways of hiding possible harmful side effects, on doctors who don't bother to read the fine print before perscribing a new medication, and at the same time, how it's an inevitable part of modern medicine and it all comes down to money, like it or not. TV can be such an influencial medium, and ER has done a lot to educate people over the years. I usually hate it when ER gets political, but it feels appropriate in this context. Especially since I've heard so many people say what Henry said in this episode- "it's FDA approved, it can't be dangerous..."
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Post by bpentecost on Jul 29, 2009 10:30:02 GMT -5
I just finished watching season 11 again bought the dvd. And your right not enough Noah Way to much Neela and Abby, and Abby's love story with Jake which i thought was weird. I really liked the episode the Providers great one.
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Post by darksparrow on Aug 5, 2009 12:35:26 GMT -5
You know what's kind of fun? When you've watched an episode so many times you practically remember it by heart, and then you rewatch it a little while later and you notice something you never noticed before- a look, a word, anything at all. in this case, I was rewatching May Day for the 99,999th time today, admiring, as always, good old ER. Now focus on the scene where Kerry invites Carter to enter exam three (for the intervention), before they actually go in. It couldn't hurt to rewatch the scene-
He follows her, sees where she's leading him and shakes his head in disbelief- that is exam three, probably the last place he wants to go. Now considering I probably remember every grimace, every intonation and every facial expression from the scene that comes after that, it's funny how I totally missed this. I just love this little acknowlegement of the unfortunate room choice, and how they never said anything about it- did they do this on puropse to startle him, or could they actually miss the significance of that particular exam area? it's stuff like that, when you start questioning the decisions the characters make, forgetting that they're only characters, which is why ER rules.
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Post by andie13rn on Aug 5, 2009 21:00:46 GMT -5
I didn't like season 11 at all. Too much neela and too much Abby and sucking storylines for Carter. I think, besides few moments, season 11 was the worst Carter's season because, like you said, Anna, they didn't seem to care about his storyline at all. And I think they did it on purpose: they just tried to put the character on the corner to minimize the effects of Noah's departure. Shame on them. I don't have the dvds but I think it's from Episode 11x03, "Try Carter". Maybe midnight?
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Post by andie13rn on Aug 5, 2009 21:03:15 GMT -5
I just finished watching season 11 again bought the dvd. And your right not enough Noah Way to much Neela and Abby, and Abby's love story with Jake which i thought was weird. I really liked the episode the Providers great one. IMHO, The Providers is the last great ER eppy ( except by Carter arch on last season)
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