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Post by Raffy on Mar 9, 2009 7:12:52 GMT -5
I noticed it me too. What Carter said in the last scene " I reached a point about 5 years ago when everything where I started to feel that every day was the same thing and I had enough. But I've been through a lot of stuff since then. And now, I try to embrace the idea that everything that happens has never happened before. Like that saying you cannot stand in the same river twice. Because by the time you come back it is not the same river. And you're not the same man. Anyway. I look around this place now and can't imagine ever finding it boring. Because right at the moment when you think that you've seen it all, something happens that you never could have expected. " Don't you think those words also could relate to the show?
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Post by claired80 on Mar 9, 2009 9:18:25 GMT -5
Don't you think those words also could relate to the show? The more I think about it, the more I think it's exactly that! And that it's also true for almost everything in the interview of Carter, in the first part of it too. When Carter says something like "you see it all, the full spectrum of human life... That sounds pretentious?", I think it can be also the writers telling that about their own show: they know they are treating very important questions, about life and death, but after all, it's just a TV show. It's pretentious to think they can really cover it all... He also says "and you're there for the end and that part never gets easier": I think it can relate to the old cast coming back for the end, and it's not easy for them to bring the show to an end. I can really imagine that the writers are not taking themselves so "seriously" right now, that they take a step back to watch at the full history of their show and reflect about it, and they don't hesitate to put their thoughts about it directly inside the show. The little part with Jerry rushing to get an injection for the allergic lady, with the music from first seasons playing in the background, is about that too: I think the writers are poking fun at their own 'drama' scenes... The interviews of the rest of the staff, not only Carter, were along that line too. Haleh told about something that actually happened in the first season, the intern (whose name I dont know...) telling that he says "stat!" quite often is also making fun at their lines on the show, I think... And I think Carter (or what is Noah then? : smiling after turning off the alarm can be about that too: it coud be his way of saying something like "It wasn't Carter talking right now... ". But I don't know... his face becoming all serious again after is really mysterious. Maybe he just gets back to being Carter... All in all, I think if you look at the interviews with thinking it's the writers trying to tell you something about their own show, it seems to all make sense in a way. But it's not 100% clear... ETA: and of course, the title of the episode can be about that too: it's "What the writers do". another edit: And also the fact that Carter says it's hard to believe it started 15 years ago. I think that's really about the show! And another edit! I can imagine that the voice of the person doing the interview is David Zabel's (for instance to hear here from 0:18 on: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tycavHq65AM&feature=related)
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Post by Raffy on Mar 9, 2009 16:09:02 GMT -5
I had the same impression I think it's almost all about the show. As for Noah's smiling after the beep, beep I think he was just saying "I told you........Just in the moment you think you've seen it all, something happens you never could have expected". It could be
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Post by helenhuntrocks on Mar 9, 2009 17:59:28 GMT -5
I'm not a Zabel fan so if that's the last that we'll hear from him this season then I'll be ecstatic. ;D
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Post by darksparrow on Mar 11, 2009 0:52:46 GMT -5
I thought the episode was beautiful. Some part made me really uncomfortable (I didn't like the interview at the beginning, for example, it just made me too sad, not to mention the interview at the end- if that didn't sound like "last words" I don't know what does.) but I thought it was a good episode. I think it felt weird because we could feel that the actors weren't really PLAYING anymore, you know? It's like they broke the barrier between actors and characters and now they're telling us how it feels to have been on the show so long. I think almost everything that's happened since Noah returned just proves to highlight how SURREAL it must be- both for the character and the actor. I loved every single Carter scene in this one. Noah does an amazing job. And I didn't really see anything mysterious in his smile at the end, it was just a sort of resigned smile to show that he has no idea how the hell he'd come to what's happening now, and he has no idea what's going to happen, and... It's just all brought to a whole new level by the look in his eyes. It's like he smiles because he gets nostalgic for a moment, and then real life comes rushing back and you just want to cry, it's so sad. As much as I love comedy!Noah, NOBODY does pain better than this guy. Also, when Jerry asked him if he'd see him again, it was a moment of "uh uh, when someone says THAT, you know they won't...." What the hell are the writers playing at?! Claired80, the nose cannula bothered me too. I let it slide because he still managed to pull that look off (how the hell does he do that? You're supposed to be sick/dying, stop looking hot. )
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Post by claired80 on Mar 11, 2009 3:15:19 GMT -5
I think it felt weird because we could feel that the actors weren't really PLAYING anymore, you know? It's like they broke the barrier between actors and characters and now they're telling us how it feels to have been on the show so long. I think almost everything that's happened since Noah returned just proves to highlight how SURREAL it must be- both for the character and the actor. Yeah, it was surreal. It was hard to say if it's the characters, actors or writers talking. I think they played and wrote that kind of mix really beautifully. Totally agree on that! I don't know how he does it exactly, but he has these shiny feverish eyes, the look of total exhaustion, the broken voice absolutely perfect.
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Post by darksparrow on Mar 11, 2009 14:28:22 GMT -5
[geeky confessions] In that scene where he's talking to Gates about Kem, right towards the end, I must have listened to him say "I'm just kinda tired" 15 times in a loop, I was just so awed by how anyone could act with his voice like that. Just listening to him gives me the chills. [/geeky confession]
*is off in search for a life* oh, who am I kidding. I'm going to watch the BTS scenes for the next episode.
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Post by Raffy on Mar 11, 2009 15:14:50 GMT -5
No, please, don't say so or you'll make me watch it again!!!
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Post by darksparrow on Mar 11, 2009 15:18:58 GMT -5
Nooo, it's our obligation to watch it again. Just to, you know, erm, appreciate the vocal qualities.
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Post by claired80 on Mar 11, 2009 15:28:58 GMT -5
Well.. that makes me feel better. I stopped counting how many times I watched the scene where they start treating Carter. His first look when Morris asks "When was your last dialysis?" is just so multi-layered, a mix of "cr*p, they know... " and resignation and exhaustion... Perfect. The full scene I find so well acted. The coughing, the voice, oh yeah, the voice!! when saying "sip of coffee... handful of pop corn".. the look of pain. It's actually hard to believe Noah isn't actually hurting. Isn't it a bit screwed to watch and re-watch a scene with someone in pain? I feel a bit ashamed I must say...
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Post by Raffy on Mar 11, 2009 15:39:38 GMT -5
I know what you mean, believe me. I love that scene Oh, he has so many qualities that I'm worried I have to watch it other 100 times ;D
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Post by darksparrow on Mar 11, 2009 15:47:48 GMT -5
Probably. Oh well, so we're all a little crazy. But those scenes are still pure genius.
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Post by bpentecost on Mar 11, 2009 15:48:11 GMT -5
i have watched that eposides time and time again just can't get enough God that man is hot!!
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