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Post by Claudia on May 16, 2010 14:57:37 GMT -5
ETA: We miss you! I miss you guys too! THANX a lot for the latest Twitter-list and the new additions, Lynn!
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Post by Raffy on May 16, 2010 15:11:41 GMT -5
Thank you for the update, Lynn....we miss you too!!!!
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Post by Raffy on May 31, 2010 6:10:20 GMT -5
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Post by Raffy on Jun 19, 2010 8:42:38 GMT -5
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Post by darksparrow on Aug 29, 2010 13:02:31 GMT -5
I just realized I never actually saw the Darfur episodes. I saw bits of them, but not the entire arc. Since I can't be bothered to watch the whole of season 12 just for a glimpse of Noah, I was hoping one of you scholars could help me figure out which episodes to get. 12x15 is "Darfur" so obviously there's that one, but is there anything else from that season I should watch? Or even anything that explains, well, ANYTHING that's happened between season 11 and 15? One of those days I'll get over my hatred of Abby and watch seasons 12-15 just to know what happens to the rest of the characters. I actually have no idea how Susan left, Kerry, Luka...
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Post by Raffy on Aug 29, 2010 17:05:26 GMT -5
Mmmmm....that's not so easy because I barely remember seasons 12-15 and I suppose it means that they weren't so...memorable As for the Africa episodes there also another 2 episodes "No Place to Hide" and "There Are No Angels Here" which was quite good. As for Susan ....I think something happened between Sherry Stringfield and the producers because her character just disappeared at very beginning of season 12 with a really brief explanation: a new job. Kerry left in season 13....mmm I think she found a new job somewhere else and a new love. Season 13, Episode 13: A House Divided Kovac " postpones the honeymoon and says goodbye to Abby and his son, for the meantime, while he travels to Croatia to visit his ailing father". Season 13, Episode 23: The Honeymoon Is Over
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Post by darksparrow on Aug 30, 2010 0:31:48 GMT -5
Thanks Raffy!I'm going to watch the rest of the Africa episodes. *sigh* Of course... why did I expect any different? Ooooh, better not be like Kem visiting her ailing mother. Well at least SOME characters got a happy ending. I guess. Oh, and in the interest of filling gaps- what happened with Kerry's leg? In the retrospective there was a bit about her walking without the cane, and obviously in season 15 she was walking without it. I was wondering if they actually HAD a storyline for that or if they just decided that she'd get all better out of the blue. (No, I have NO trust in the writers )
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Post by Raffy on Aug 30, 2010 12:45:03 GMT -5
They had a storyline She got through hip replacement surgery in season 12 "after she finds it hard to do her labor intensive job" Season 12, Episode 16: Out on a Limb Season 12, Episode 19: No Place to Hide.
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Post by darksparrow on Aug 30, 2010 13:16:53 GMT -5
THAT kind of storyline. Right.
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Post by darksparrow on Aug 31, 2010 8:41:30 GMT -5
Just finished watching the season 12 Sudan episodes. Powerful, indeed. I think it's a good thing I didn't watch them at the time they aired- I don't think they would have had the same impact. And although it doesn't completely fill the gaps for me, it did help me figure out how Carter could end up running a clinic in Darfur. Also, the doctor who ran the clinic, who had Schistosomiasis but refused to leave the clinic to get treatment, was just the link that I've been missing from season 11 healthy Carter to season 15 sick Carter: The clinic in Sudan has bad drinking water, parasites causing internal organ damage, hang out there long enough and you WILL get sick... And even though they never tell us, I guess it's safe to assume that if dr. Dakarai's condition deteriorated further and he had to leave (or worse) Carter would have taken over that camp and stayed there until his health problems made him, too, have to leave...
I haven't watched ER in such a long time, and I honestly didn't think I'd like these episodes as much as I did. Having Noah in them didn't hurt a bit, but they would have worked even without him, and that's more than I can say for the rest of the episodes after Noah's departure.
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Post by claired80 on Aug 31, 2010 9:57:21 GMT -5
And even though they never tell us, I guess it's safe to assume that if dr. Dakarai's condition deteriorated further and he had to leave (or worse) Carter would have taken over that camp and stayed there until his health problems made him, too, have to leave... I guess it's indeed really safe to assume that, as Dakarai, Carter insisted on staying more than he should have... He said himself he had the idea that his problems would magically disappear. And his saying " a week in a Nairobi hospital cured me of that" sounded to me like he let his condition deteriorate very badly until he had to be urgently hospitalized. I think that it'll remain a missing part for me . I would have liked to see under which conditions he left Africa, how he learnt his condition was bad, how he reacted to it, who took care of him... 5 episodes were definitely not enough to cover that arc. I was still watching every single episode during season 12 (stopped watching regularly for season 13... ), and the Darfur episodes were such a contrast to the soap opera that was in the ER. At the time, it felt really like two different shows, and it really didn't have to do with Noah being there only.
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Post by darksparrow on Sept 2, 2010 11:51:31 GMT -5
No, they were just good television. The pace was good, the political message was important and painful and beautifully addressed, and most imporantly, they kept me at the edge of my seat. I can see how they're completely different from the tone of ER, and especially from the tone of season 12 ER. Definitely closer to my definition of 'medical drama'.
I'm away at my parents' house for a few days, and I actually can't wait to get back home and rewatch these episodes. And I can't tell you how long it's been since I felt like watching an episode of ER...
That's true, but I don't think a whole season would have been enough for that, either. The only way they could have filled that gap satisfactorily would be to give Noah his own spinoff... That would be something worth watching- There are plenty of medical dramas out there, but how many shows about doctors in Sudan have there been? But I, too, would have loved to find out a little more about what happened in Africa. How he came to be sick, and how he progressed and what finally made him decide to go back to the states, what part Kem played in all this, what happened to the clinic after he left... I guess the writers thought they could never fit all of that into the ridiculous air time he got, so they left it up to us to fill the blanks. And I sort of wish I had the talent to write fanfiction, because somewhere in those two missing years there's a story begging to be told. Because so much about Carter has been left open-ended, I'd love to have some insight at least on that.
Also, I really hated the short haircut when I first saw it, and I still don't think it's the best look for him, but I still feel the uncontrollable urge to make icons. ;D
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Post by Raffy on Sept 2, 2010 12:21:01 GMT -5
At the time some fans who really couldn't stand this arc said the same. IMO they were right. It felt really like two different shows. One show was mediocre and soapy and the other one reminded me that TV can be GOOD. I suppose NBC prefered to play safe with an old soup rather than risk with a new pepper pot
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Post by claired80 on Sept 2, 2010 12:50:30 GMT -5
Indeed, it's a long story... Don't resist the urge! ;D And yeah, that's a haircut I so don't like that it's one he can cover with THE hat imo . And I'm always reminded that it's an Owen-made one... ;D
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Post by darksparrow on Sept 2, 2010 13:13:49 GMT -5
*shudders* Ugh. I've really grown to hate those four words. I totally forgot about that. ;D That makes it adorable, but still so, so wrong. But no, I think I still hate the hat more. I promise, just as soon as I get home. And watching season 15 (because it's the only CD I have at my parents' house) I realize that in the "dialysis" scene at the end of "The Beginning Of The End" he's got the short hair... It looks much shorter than the rest of the episode.
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