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Post by Raffy on Mar 27, 2009 5:47:00 GMT -5
Oh my God. I can't believe it!
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Post by darksparrow on Mar 28, 2009 12:59:17 GMT -5
I already know I'll be crying like a baby. Like the promo says, "I know a lot of us never actually thought this day would come..."
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Post by claired80 on Apr 1, 2009 9:45:37 GMT -5
"I know a lot of us never actually thought this day would come.." It's no wild guessing that they chose that sentence for the promo meaning "this day" is the end of ER . I imagine Carter will just be talking about the opening of the Carter Center, which apparently has been very much delayed. I just love Noah's voice in that little sentence. I don't know what it is really, I don't find it to be his all usual voice. It sounds deep and serious, and very mature somehow. It sounds really quite different from what he used so far this season. I really can't wait for that episode!!! And I'm fully determined to not read any comment before I watched the finale myself! ;D well.. let's say that I'll be very proud of myself if I can manage that... I'm very lucky to have a job where I don't have to report when I work or not, so my Friday is unofficially off for sure ;D! It'll be full ER day.
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Post by nia on Apr 2, 2009 23:24:52 GMT -5
This sucked. Badly. Sorry guys. I can't believe I was the one asking people to be patient. Leaving aside the fact that they told us NOTHING about Carter, they actually wasted two full hours showing every minute detail of Uncle Jesse's life. Uncle Jesse doing medicine, Uncle Jesse sleeping at home, Uncle Jesse hanging out with Alex painting a car, Uncle Jesse going to his daughter's school to give her a lecture, Uncle Jesse playing basketball, Uncle Jesse surprising Sam with a birthday gift and finally Uncle Jesse holding hands with Sam. Had enough? Carter, otoh, is a big ole question mark. We have no idea how he's responding to his new kidney though I guess he's fine since he's walking around. We have NO clue what is wrong with him and Kem and we still don't find out. They are still estranged and we have no idea if they will get together or separate or just keep on living like they are. We don't even know if Carter is staying in Chicago or leaving again. He doesn't even have a real job though he wanders around treating patients and Basset and Stamos seem to grumble about that. The only thing we found out was that he was planning on staying awake all night so he could call Kem in the morning and not oversleep or somehow miss calling her. Great. Whatever. I feel like I wasted a lot of time on this show. Maybe I'll feel differently in the morning.
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Post by bri on Apr 3, 2009 1:05:47 GMT -5
I thought it was a good ending, but wish that they would have tied up loose ends about Carter. Is he going to be okay with his transplant? Is he going to work at County? What about him and Kem?
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 2:31:29 GMT -5
I still don't have the episode.
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Post by helenhuntrocks on Apr 3, 2009 2:40:24 GMT -5
[quote Whatever. I feel like I wasted a lot of time on this show. Maybe I'll feel differently in the morning. [/quote] You're not alone. Wyle said that finales usually don't live up to expectations and he wasn't wrong with this one. The producers are saying that they don't want a spinoff but I guarentee you that if Southland fails (and given NBC's track record it probably will), that "Uncle Jesse" will get his own ER spinoff. And since Wyle's film career is basically non-existent, I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up in it too. I think that's why his character was left so open ended. I couldn't tell though if he was still wearing his wedding ring. Could you?
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Post by nia on Apr 3, 2009 3:10:52 GMT -5
Yes, he was wearing his wedding ring. There was one shot where it was blinding.
Noah was offered 6 pilots for next season (the highest of anyone in the industry), according to the Hollywood Reporter, and he didn't accept a single one. Don't think he has any interest in an ER spin-off either. Unlike Carter, he basically just wants to spend time with his wife and kids and watch them growing up. He doesn't need the money either. He made a small fortune from ER and even without it, he never needed money. He comes from an extremely wealthy family - like John Carter type of money.
I think John Wells honestly thought he was being clever and giving us an amazing and twisted ending that would go down in history by not revealing or resolving anything about the main character. Instead, all it did was leave fans confused and unfulfilled. It was so anti-climatic. Nothing happened for 2 hours!
They were better off ending it with the original finale, the transplant episode, which had Doug, Carol, Benton, and Carter. That was at least exciting and Carter calling Kem at the end was enough. This episode was a total borefest that didn't tell us anything anyway.
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 3:13:57 GMT -5
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Post by helenhuntrocks on Apr 3, 2009 3:34:38 GMT -5
Yes, he was wearing his wedding ring. There was one shot where it was blinding. /quote] Thanks though I meant was he wearing it in the basketball scene or in the bar? I still can't tell. As for Wyle's money, everybody has lost significant amts of money in the current financial crisis so he's no doubt poorer than he was a few years ago. He also likes to act, but he's clearly not getting that desire fulfilled by Hollywood. The fact that he was offered several pilots indicates that he is thinking about it. He may not have accepted any of them because he didn't find them interesting. He's clearly got a bond with Wells so if Wells were to do an ER spinoff, I think that Wyle could be easily persuaded to return. Seeing as how Wyle described this episode as having a "great prognosis" for Carter and HIS ENTIRE LIFE having been left so open ended, I'm not overly impressed by his ability to judge things at this point. And yes, Newton is almost as bad as he is. She's rubbing shoulders with A-listers like Damon and De Niro in South Africa at some posh hotel that opened yesterday over there, so WHY IN THE HELL would you come back for 2 lines in ER? LOL - poor poor judgement calls on the part of Wyle and Newton, imo
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Post by claired80 on Apr 3, 2009 3:56:13 GMT -5
I started getting a tiny bit worried with an interview of Noah saying that with such a long running big show, a finale can never live up to the expectations... How right he was! Maybe he had seen it at that point and was kinda embarrassed and, basically, he was the one left to promote it on talk shows. I guess he had no way to say he found it disappointing, if he did... But calling it a "happy prognosis" is far-fetched. I guess Noah imagines it happy. Other people can imagine it utterly depressing. Pick up your Carter ever-after... Was Wells too worried that people would be disappointed with what he could come up with to write a closure for Carter? How can you let a character so open? I can like opened ending in movies, books, usually... but not like that. Not when so much has been taking place before. I really don't know what to think right now. Disappointed, big time... Angry, almost... Sleepy for sure... How many times did I resist not to fast forward! That was tough... How could Alex Kingston say something like "Carter has a very big story line". Where was it? Yeah, all about Uncle Jesse. Yepi. And whatever happened to Lucy's mom and her heart? And Scott Grimes said it was full of little things reminding the pilot. Yeah, I saw that... But it was really little bits. They put a grin on my face, but that was quickly wiped out with a long boring scene with Uncle Jesse right after. I need time to reflect on it I guess... but right now, all I feel like is having a coffee and a smoke, and it's certainly not how I wanted ER finale to make me feel.
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 4:01:59 GMT -5
Not everyone needs Hollywood to have their desires fulfilled. Noah doesn't seem to be the one who needs Hollywood to have what he really wants. He already has it.
No. It inidicates that people WANT him. But he CAN chose to work or go in Italy for a vacancy. Yes, this really sounds like someone who's suffering the economycal crisis.
But obviously you don't know absolutely nothing about it.
If he and Wells are so friends I suppose it would more plausibile for him to do something in Southland if he really wants to do TV.
Considering Carter's health issues I suppose he was talking just about his health conditions and he never said anything about Carter being happy with Kem.
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 4:08:53 GMT -5
And that's was my worst scenario. I really don't understand Wells' obsession for Stamos.
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Post by darksparrow on Apr 3, 2009 4:14:20 GMT -5
Okay, downloading the episode it taking so long and after reading the comments, I almost don't want to watch. Can't we just pretend that the show ended sometime around early season 10? @!#$. I KNEW Carter would get overlooked in the finale, they always seem to do that, but really, no conclusion? no idea of the general direction the character's going to be heading? we deserve better. But even the Kem issue aside, how can it be any sort of prognosis when they leave the character hanging? I can't think of a main character right now that got a more disappointing exit (at least in the first 8 or 9 years, because everything that happened after that doesn't count). And don't bring up Romano, at least in his case, we know what happened. I mean, when you look back on any of the important characters, you can usually say "ah, yes, so they're probably doing this and that". Would it be so hard to give us just a hint of a happy note? Here, I'm definitely angry. And once again, I don't really think Noah is to blame for any of this, obviously he's not the one writing and he's obligated to promote the show- he can't say "yeah, the finale sucks. go watch it". But I AM surprised at how differently he seems to precieve the ending that they give Carter. He was glad that they're leaving the audience feeling that "these people will continue to do what they do" and that's a nice way to end a show, definitely better than having the ER shut down, but did anyone get that sense from the finale? I prefer a lame ending to NO ending.
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Post by nia on Apr 3, 2009 4:19:23 GMT -5
I think you're off-track blaming either Noah or Thandie. Even if neither one had come back, you realize the producers and writers could have broken them up easily if they wanted to? LOL, they would have said Carter sent an email or letter that he's in wherever country and his divorce proceedings are going through, lol. They can do whatever they want. Ultimately, the power doesn't lie with the actors.
As far as losing money in the current crisis, lol, not the type of money the Wyles have. His family founded/owned companies that later went public and were listed on the stock exchange. They currently own a private company which gets billion dollar contracts from NASA, etc. There are buildings and libraries with their name on the side. They run their own charitable foundations, etc. Trust me, he does not need money. His whole reason for leaving ER in the first place was just hanging out at home and giving enough time to his children who he didn't get to see enough of him when he worked.
This I agree with. Not sure what he was smoking when he said that but then even as an adoring fan, I've never thought he was the sharpest tool in the shed. He's mismanaged his career before this at other times also but what can we do.
I've followed him for years and he is a decent, good man. But he's also sometimes a bumbling fool who gets taken for a ride. He's not exactly made for the cutthroat world of Hollywood and most of the decisions he's made over the years have not been the type other celebrities would make.
Well there's a big difference between attending parties and doing substantial roles. For what it's worth, she was comically atrocious in W. And her British films rarely get seen by people on this side of the pond. Stuff like RocknRolla and that Fatboy movie are very very under the radar.
There's also the possibility that it was sold better to both Noah and Thandie than what actually ended up appearing in the episode. Maybe stuff got cut out or scenes got deleted at the end. I too wonder what Noah thought was an "excellent prognosis" for Carter.
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