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Post by darksparrow on Jul 4, 2011 8:00:04 GMT -5
Oh, I remember that movie. Yes, it's a horrible, but very effective tactic. Weaver was WRITTEN to be irritating, so he's doing it right. But yes, I see what you mean. Some more 'depth' to the characters would be nice. Nobody is JUST a compassionate doctor or JUST a military man or JUST an annoying ex-con. Well, I don't know about Pope, but the rest of the characters, like Anthony or Dai, I felt the 4th episode at least made an attempt to make them seem more like people. They need to try harder though. They have a tendency to fall back into stereotypes. Not sure what you meant by that... Could you try to explain?  He's just a kid. He seemed pretty sad and subdued to me in the first few episodes, but as a kid, he's SUPPOSED to be egocentric. And yes, eventually, he's going to want to play. Or go to school. Or have a party. Or anything else that reminds him of normal life. I think that part is actually realistic. I agree. The scene went on for too long, too. As for the boy who may or may have not been Owen... I'll have to rewatch!  ETA:  That DOES look like him! |
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Post by breizh22 on Jul 4, 2011 9:42:23 GMT -5
I will try to explain! Although I'm glad to be Noah who is the main character, should not that the series falls into the concept of a hero and others around He is on all fronts: food, children, weapons ... if even during the episode there are failures, at the end of the episode he always arrive to harvest the objects and it is not more helped by the army, that just give the orders! They say care for civilians, but if I understood correctly they are 100 So a part of the army could do its missions or assist Tom is a man he can not do it alone and it was only history teacher I do not know if you see my point of view Matt at the beginning of pilot, he does a kind of therapy. it is sad and anxious! Why do want a birthday party a few hours after? The producters could wait for the release of his brother for to a happy moment I think there, despite the fear and danger, we can afford to be happy and relieved anyone know why the Army wanted to Ben and not another child be saved because I did not understand?? I realized that save many children could be dangerous but why Ben?? |
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Post by darksparrow on Jul 4, 2011 10:17:45 GMT -5
Oh, I see your point exactly. You're right. It bothered me too very much in the first episodes- why is it Tom and HIS TEAM doing everything, always in the center of what's happening? There are supposed to be 100 fighters after all. Yes, it's not believable that a history professor would be put as second in command to a military man.
Yeah, I'd love to see how it looks from other aspects- I'd love for them to incorporate some more characters so it's not just always things happening to the same six people.
But... I think the point of the show IS to be told from Tom's point of view, so it's not so much that he's in the center of the action as we're just seeing things from HIS angle. So we're only seeing those missions that HE goes to, while presumably other fighters are doing other things. The way it seems in later episodes they're operating using teams of up to six people, so it makes sense that Tom has his 'regular' team with him on missions.
I disagree with you there. I'm not a clinical psychologist but I did just finish a degree in psychology so I can base this argument on many literary texts but I won't bother you with that. From the little experience I've had with psychological traumas, in both children and adults, I can say that being sad and anxious would make him even MORE inclined to seek the kind of 'normal' activities that he was used to before the attack, to try and regain a sense of control. And from my own experience, even people in a depressive state have their light moments. it's all a question of being momentarily able to distract yourself. Children are really good at that.
The choice to go with Ben was arbitrary. They knew Tom was going to go after him anyway, and they needed a kid for the experiment with the harness. If Tom had said no, they'd have gone for another kid. And from the pilot it seems that Tom is pretty close to Porter (he calls him Jim), so it may be a sentimental decision.
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Post by claired80 on Jul 4, 2011 10:20:20 GMT -5
anyone know why the Army wanted to Ben and not another child be saved because I did not understand?? I realized that save many children could be dangerous but why Ben?? I think it's because they have the permission to do so by Tom. They are still kinda experimenting on the de-harnessing, and don't want to do it on just anyone, but on a kid they know. They clearly asked Tom if he accepts that or not. I see what you mean with the show being all about Tom. I guess we are supposed to imagine that Weaver is assigning other missions to other soldiers. We just don't see them... It's not so unrealistic. What I find unrealistic though is how they found Ben back so easily. Where is this hospital by the way? I understood it like it was Boston. But then I thought the full group walked pretty far away from Boston, and yet they seem to go back and forth there pretty quickly...  Checking frame by frame actually, I'm now 100% sure it's not Owen ... but there is a little similarity. |
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Post by breizh22 on Jul 4, 2011 10:52:19 GMT -5
precisely with the number of personnage, I thought there would be scenes of the other missions but can be for later. It is only the third episode I did not ask for the hospital but it's true, it's weird ... now I ask myself, thank you Claire lol and I made a print-screen of the scene of "Owen" it's not him I'm sure also but if you look quickly you might think |
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Post by breizh22 on Jul 4, 2011 11:17:34 GMT -5
sorry darksparrow I had not seen your comment
the viewpoint of Matt, it is very interesting and true. I think we forget too quickly the misfortunes when they are gone (I speak for me)
I work in pharmacy and I deliver so many antidepressants and I hear all day so their sadness and they do not seek a way out ... This may be for that!!!
but I find they are too happy for people who have lost family, friends and neighbors! I wanted a bit of darkness to begin, this happened six months ago and I thought the children would be the most sensitive
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That DOES look like him! 
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