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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 10:56:45 GMT -5
Really good numbers. NBC's 'ER' Finale Pulls in 16.2 Million Viewers By Sergio Ibarra Thursday night’s series finale of “ER” on NBC drew more than 16 million viewers. The two-hour finale averaged a 6.0 rating/16 share among adults 18 to 49 and 16.2 million viewers, according to preliminary Nielsen Media Research figures. The show dominated the 9-11 p.m. hours across the broadcast networks. At 8 p.m., NBC aired a retrospective special, which scored a 3.5/10 in the demo and 10.6 million viewers. “ER” ended its run after 15 season and 123 Emmy Award nominations. In its final season the series was averaging a 3.2 rating in the demo. www.tvweek.com/news/2009/04/nbcs_er_finale_draws_162_milli.php
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Post by darksparrow on Apr 3, 2009 11:08:08 GMT -5
This episode will never finish downloading. I'm reading a lot of mixed reviews on this one. On the one hand, everyone on this board seemed to be less than thrilled about the episode, but then everyone on LJ is gushing about how perfect and symbolic it is. Maybe it's something wrong with us... (I know what bothers me most about this whole thing, before even watching the episode and more than the lack of closure for Carter. it's the fact that they had a two hour finale and wasted it all on GATES. UGH.) ETA: Raffy, where did you find the youtube clips?
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 11:19:47 GMT -5
Here : www.youtube.com/user/bemyguest80DITTO. Counting the minutes on youtube clips Carter got 25 minutes of screentime. If you consider that he's not a regular and ther're "other" 5 cast members and they got 90 minutes to show everyone it's not so bad.
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Post by bpentecost on Apr 3, 2009 11:31:46 GMT -5
I thought the retrospetive was great. I didn't relize that Scott Grimes knew Noah from long time ago. I know he said once that Noah went to bat for him to the producers so he could keep his job.
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 11:44:40 GMT -5
I was just thinking about that! Claire, when you have time could you please post something on youtube from the retrospective too?
Scott really has a soft spot for Noah ;D
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Post by claired80 on Apr 3, 2009 11:47:13 GMT -5
Mmmm. I've watched few clips on you tube (Thank you Claire!!! ;D)....it doesn't seem so bad and Carter looks quite relaxed and energetic You're very welcome! Yeah! he looks happy! that's confusing... I guess we are supposed to think that Carter is at peace, whatever his future will be... Maybe it'll really just need time to grow on me. But the first impression being "it sucked..." is not exactly thrilling still. And yeah, I counted 27 minutes of clip... I was very curious about that. It's not so little! but the problem is, in these 27 minutes, he is close to the camera but not always in front of it, in trauma scenes... and there's not really anything significant lines in his mouth, aside from the speech at the Carter Center. Even with Kem, she tells him she thinks about Joshua every day, and his answer is "Lunch?". I was really "bah? that's it?". Come on Carter, you must have something more meaningful to say! I'm really left with the impression that Wells was worried to make him say something that some people could not like, so he hardly wrote any lines for him...
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Post by nia on Apr 3, 2009 11:53:17 GMT -5
I think it felt like he had nothing to do because his screen-time wasn't really used in an important way. He was just kind of wandering around.
I feel he was just used as a means to get the old characters back for a quick final reunion because there was no other way to do it. I've rewatched the Carter parts of the episode and I must say I feel better about the finale now than I did last night. I think Carter was just passing through the ER the way patients do. We never learn everything about their lives and a lot of the times, we don't learn the long term outcomes either.
In the total of 4 or 5 episodes he did, I think the summary is that he came back specifically to get a transplant and open the center. He was not planning on staying permanently and never got a job at the ER. He worked some shifts for free - he had earlier asked Banfield about that. That was just a means to give viewers some old-school ER briefly. A way to get Doug and Carol on the show for his transplant indirectly, and Benton, Susan, and Weaver more directly. Everyone would scatter again and get on with their lives once the transplant succeeded and the center opened.
Even Rachel would not be hanging around in the ER, at least not that soon. She applied for the program at County and Carter tried to put in a good word for her but there was nothing guaranteed. She was there for that one night just like all the other cast members- a reminder of Mark and the old days.
As for Carter and Kem, they were struggling but I think both wanted to try instead of giving up. She made the effort to come to Chicago even though it's hard for her to be there and he made the effort to stay up all night just to call her and talk to her in the morning. He still wears his wedding ring and refers to her as his wife in the present tense. (He had already told her in the past that he would wait for her 1 year or 10 years, he didn't care.) Their story didn't get wrapped up with a big bow but it wasn't utterly hopeless either.
Obviously if it was up to me, things would have been done differently in the finale but it's not up to me. lol
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 11:56:57 GMT -5
Numbers from Mediaweek....
ER (NBC) – series finale 9:00 p.m. – Viewers: 14.79 million, A18-49: 5.3/14 9:30 p.m. – Viewers: 15.35 million, A18-49: 5.6/14 10:00 p.m. – Viewers: 17.77 million, A18-49: 6.7/18 10:30 p.m. – Viewers: 17.02 million, A18-49: 6.4/18
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 12:06:21 GMT -5
Guys, I'm sure it's not about screentime but I didn't see it yet so at the moment I can just count
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Post by claired80 on Apr 3, 2009 12:07:35 GMT -5
I was just thinking about that! Claire, when you have time could you please post something on youtube from the retrospective too? Ah yeah! I wanted to ask in my previous post, but forgot, if you guys manage to get the retrospective! I have it in a weird format (.mkv) for which my software to make clips does not work, but I'm working on trying to find a way to convert that to .avi. If I manage, I'll make a smaller version of the full retro (which is more than 1Gb right now...) and put it to download somewhere, and make clips for YouTube ;D! Did anybody here get to watch it? I really liked it ;D. And I was wondering if it's just my imagination or if it's really in the scene, but they showed the stabbing without music over it, with Carter's "sounds" a lot louder than I remembered, and his 'gasping' before managing to say "lucy" really gave me a bad chill . It's funny that they covered that with loud music. Once again, Noah's voice was perfect! Nia: I really like your summary of Carter's season 15. And I agree Carter/Kem is not hopeless... It's really totally left to us to imagine where they go.
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Post by darksparrow on Apr 3, 2009 12:13:07 GMT -5
Oh man, now I'm really dying to see it! no pun intended. I can't seem to get even the episode, not to mention the retrospective... *sigh* Why can't I live in the US like normal people do?
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 12:31:37 GMT -5
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Post by darksparrow on Apr 3, 2009 12:34:10 GMT -5
Mwah! Mwah! Mwah! ;D Too bad I can't watch it right now... stupid real-life obligations getting in the way of the important things, lol. Hopefully by the time I get back I'll be able to watch that AND the finale. ;D
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Post by Raffy on Apr 3, 2009 13:50:20 GMT -5
LOL. E! review is almost all about Kem ER Series Finale Redux: Our Last Slice of Life Today 11:33 AM PDT by Jennifer Godwin Thandie Newton, Noah Wyle, ER NBC Some 16 million people tuned in for the final two hours of ER, which has been a part of our Thursday nights since the Mesozoic era—or at least since Noah Wyle was just a young scamp and not a grand old man of series television. The finale, titled "And in the End...", made the point that the story of the emergency room will continue and remain much the same as the 332 hours we've already seen, just without the window into that world so graciously provided by John Wells, David Zabel and NBC for lo these 15 years. If you haven't watched the two-hour ER series finale yet, run along and do so. If you've already seen it and want to discuss our final day at County General, get in here... Ingratitude: Dear Kem, Are you out of your ever-loving mind?! You're married to Dr. John freakin' Carter and you're so wrapped up in your own self-pity and narcissistic drama that the man has to grovel to get a lunch date with you?! For that matter, you missed out on his kidney transplant, and ignorance of the transplant is no excuse for ditching it! Horrifying behavior, missy, and don't think we won't be holding it against you for the rest of time. We didn't need a rainbows-and-butterflies happy ending for you and Carter—we'd kinda forgotten you'd even existed in the intervening years—but for cryin' out loud, did you have to be so ostentatiously terrible? Appreciation: Dear Thandie Newton, thank you so much for coming back to do the ER finale. It was lovely to see more of that part of Carter's life and to see the resolution of the utterly excruciating storyline of Joshua's death from a few years back. Also, you are so pretty! (And on a totally unrelated note, here's a little appreciation for Scott Grimes, who is a low-profile comic genius. You also rock.) ER: The Next Generation: Really liked the good intentions behind bringing Rachel Greene into the ER to demonstrate that the circle remains unbroken: Mark Greene taught Carter, who now teaches Mark Greene's child, but um, that kid is still pretty annoying. Alexis Bledel was darling, of course, because that's what she does—be darling. And Emily Rose (Jericho, Brothers & Sisters) has never been so appealing. And holy cow, Sam Taggart's (Linda Cardellini) semipsychotic brat, Alex, turned out OK in the end! Medical Stuff We Learned: Thanks to the ER writers, who provided 15 years of educational television, we all learned an absurd amount of medical health information, including, last night, that a 90-pound person can be killed with just six alcoholic drinks. Don't be alkies, kids. Seriously, though, there is apparently a demonstrable public-health benefit to ER. Former ER writer Neal Baer says, "We know we have made a huge impact, because we've done studies. We did a study that looked at what people learned from the show. We did a pretest and posttest on human papilloma virus and cervical cancer. Nine percent knew before the showed aired that HPV caused cervical cancer, after the show, 30 percent. And we didn't tell them, 'Watch the show to learn that.' " Adorable Surprise: Benton's kid Reese was absurdly cute, and Benton and Corday still had a little somethin'-somethin' going on. And in the End...: After the beautiful tableaux of the gang (with all those recurring-character nurses who have been in the ER for 15 years straight while so many regulars have come and gone) waiting to receive the mass-casualty consequences of an industrial explosion, we finally got to see the whole hospital in a wide exterior view, not just the limited perspective from inside that little ambulance bay on the Warner Bros. lot. Thanks to whichever studio exec approved the budget layout for that CGI—and that goes double for whoever allowed the show to air the full ER theme one last time. Check out the opening credits for yourself below, and then post in the comments. What did you think of the very last episode of ER? www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b107581_er_series_finale_redux_our_last_slice.html
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Post by claired80 on Apr 3, 2009 14:31:46 GMT -5
Lmao!!! Resolution? Ahhh.. that's what I didn't get, it was resolution... Too bad I'm too stupid to get it. I could use a brain from time to time...
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